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Subject: [OM] Re: [OT] MS Vista
From: "Allan Mee" <bigalsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:18:24 +0000
I had the early developers Beta of Vista - and it is pretty and fast (you 
have to have a 3D card to run it - and unlike Windows/XP, Vista natively 
makes full(er) use of it. I took Vista off fairly quickly - but IIRC, one 
problem was drivers - it can use XP WMD drivers ok - but if they haven't 
been WMD'd (Microsoft tested and certified) it didn't like them. But 
fortunately, it did like most of my h/w - it used its drivers for my webcam 
rather than the non-wmd'd drivers that shipped with my webcam.
I seem to recall that, in quite a few ways, vista 'felt' more like Linux 
than XP does. Nowadays, I use XP-MCE which is fine - except that I have to 
uninstall and reinstall my webcam on almost every power-up, and for some 
reason best known to MS, the webcam gets treated as a network device - but 
its drivers don't like it. I assume that on startup, XP is trying to use the 
webcam to get the PC's IP address before my network card gets initialised 
properly - since the cam gets initailised first and that attempts at net 
access causes it's driver to understandably throw a wobbly.
Allan


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about it).

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>From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
>To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [OM] Re: [OT] MS Vista
>Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:53:13 -0500
>
>
>
>Ali Shah wrote:
>
> > ... You can actually install Vista on most any
> > type of computer. However, for example if you install
> > it on a PC running Windows 2000 it will downgrade
> > features.
>
>I'm confused.  I thought Vista was the OS to replace XP.  Are we talking
>virtual machines here?  If so, how so on most any type of computer?
>
> >
> > Another feature is the live icons. When you move your
> > mouse along the taskbar - you actually see a thumbnail
> > of what is open. If you are watching a video- the
> > video will actually be playing within the thumbnail.
>
>Ouch! A video horespower hog.
>
> >
> > When you resize a window.....instead of cutting the
> > document up...the document will resize along with the
> > window. For example when creating a Powerpoint
> > slide...the entire slide will decrease in size.
>
>Ouch! A video horsepower hog.
>
> >
> > Completely redesigned memory management,
>
>Uh, oh!  Danger, danger, Will Robinson.  When IBM and MS were working on
>OS/2 I once had 10 IBM developers and 10 MS developers working for 3
>weeks trying to find a single memory management bug.  Do the math.  60
>man weeks for one problem.  Hint.  It wasn't in the IBM code.
>
>
> >  and even allows you to cache using the
> > memory of a USB thumbdrive.
>
>Probably allows other silly things as well.
>
> >
> > Also future server OS's will be 64bit. Interesting how
> > 16bit to 32bit was a no brainer. However, 32bit to
> > 64bit is taking a little longer to become the norm.
>
>Probably because Intel, in its perpetual love affair with non-linear
>addressing, tried to break the 32 bit barrier with another silly memory
>scheme.  We we're waiting for Intel in catchup mode.  If AMD had more
>market clout we'd probably be much further along.
>
>Chuck Norcutt
>
>
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