That's not bad - the noise on the boards in 903 at 400ISO would be
considered a problem by many but it's all pretty good for a P&S -
nice regular grain chroma noise. Sometimes the quality of the noise
is as important as the fact that it is there. I am seeing a rather
strange 'cloth' texture on some - look at the shadow and green leaf
areas of 906 where it is most pronounced.
Incidentally, the first one looks suspiciously like an Australian
'Paperbark' (Melaleuca ssp.).
Andrew Fildes
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On 12/06/2006, at 1:39 PM, Moose wrote:
> Andrew Fildes wrote:
>> ...................
>> AFAIK there isn't a real P&S on the market which isn't a bit noisy at
>> 400ISO and up. But my experience of them is limited.
> I've experienced fewer of them than you have, but I have experience
> with
> one that belies your generalization. Here are some full pixel
> crops of
> shots with the F10 at iso 400 and 800. They are chosen not for
> artistic
> merit, but to show many different colors and textures and lots of
> shadows where the noise hides. The first four are at iso 400 and the
> last two are iso 800 <http://moosemystic.net/Gallery/tech/F10Noise/>.
>
> The first one has been adjusted and sharpened a little and the next
> four
> are right out of the camera. The last one was taken on a very foggy
> day,
> so it is naturally flat. I have included roll-overs with adjustment to
> pump it up and sharpening to show how the grain looks after that. I've
> taken hundreds of shots at 800 with results I like. Of course, iso 200
> and below are just noise free and sharper at the pixel level, but
> remember, these are 6.3 mp images. You just don't see the
> difference in
> web images or 8x10s. I don't know at what size it would start to show
> up, because I haven't tried it.
>> I suspect that this will be the case until they put APS-C sized
>> sensors in them.
> Your standards may be different than mine, but I just don't
> consider iso
> 400 on the F10 noisy and the noise isn't a problem at 800 the majority
> of the time. If it is, is is modest enough that something like
> NeatImage
> will clean it up nicely. 1600 is still usable, it really doesn't fall
> apart, but I very seldom use it, so I didn't run across any useful
> examples on my ramble through the images. There is a great sample shot
> at iso 1600 of a concert hall in the dpreview sample images.
>
> If the F30 lives up to Fuji's promise, it may completely disprove any
> need for bigger sensors for low noise.
>
> Moose
>
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