I agree that Mac runs best with its own software, but I have not had
problems with either of the 2 Linux systems I have tried. I have not
really tested them hard as that is not my interest, but the software I
do use such as OPen Office and GIMP really are not problematic. They
are more work than proprietary Mac OS software and not so intuitive but
I have found them reliable. I tried it primarily out of curiosity and
because I wanted to try GIMP. I prefer GIMPshop on the Mac however. I
moved to OSX completely when it came out and have never looked back. I
am a user however and I rarely think much about the hardware provided
the software I need does what I want. I did not try it when I had my
earlier PowerPC and G3 but Linux works a charm on my G4 dual and on my
G3 iBook. The points for me were to try GIMP and plain old curiosity.
Bob
On May 6, 2006, at 0:01, Manuel Viet wrote:
>
> Le samedi 06 Mai 2006 05:09, RMcFet a écrit :
>> All you need to do is partition your hard drive and reload the 2
>> systems per instructions and you can have Mac and Linux on any G3-G5
>> machine.
>
> I'm a long time linux user (since kernel 1.2x, ~ 1997) and advocate,
> and yet I
> can swear Macintosh are the *worst* possible computers to put linux
> on. I
> have some PCs (from Pentium 133MMX through PPro to athlon), some Sun
> (4m &
> 4u), an alpha ; they all work flawlessly with linux _but_ my beige G3
> (right,
> awfully old[*]) firmware is *so* buggy I'm still wondering how on
> earth I
> will boot a kernel on it[**]. Maybe via tftp out of desperation. I've
> got 2
> other G4 that need to be put back on buisness, but 2nd hand prices for
> bottom
> of the line video cards are insane since they must be OBP compliant.
> In my
> opinion, Macintosh are a huge pile of junk cobbled together just able
> to run
> MacOS ; which they do alright, I won't deny it. But running anything
> else is
> really a huge pain in the b*, not worth the time spent on it. If I
> were to
> buy a Mac, I would let it happily live its life the way Jobs intended
> it to
> be. A free operating system (as in speech) is a nonsense on proprietary
> hardware anyway. Nevertheless, I've read that it's now easier to boot
> linux
> on Mac, but still I don't see the point. MacOS X is a unix as good as
> linux
> anyway, most linux apps have been ported to OS X natively, and when it
> wasn't
> possible to make use of quartz, OS X provides an X server. So from
> OO.o to
> Gimp and firefox, everything runs happily without messing around.
>
> [*] but very handy with its onboard scsi to chain some scanners.
> [**] what's worse is that OBP was made right by Sun, and messed up by
> apple
> when they licensed it. You can boot a Sun on anything from magnetic
> tape to
> internet (and of course, floppy, cdrom, hdd, ethernet) with no
> additional
> hardware other than a VT hooked on the serial port. I hoped my Mac
> would be
> at least on par, but I was wrong. The bloody thing can't even fetch an
> iso
> properly from a cdrom. Basicaly, it can only launch the 68x00 emulator
> in rom
> which will finaly boot MacOS Macintosh+ style. I had the curiosity to
> look at
> apple issued patch to the obp (that's the beauty of forth ;-) ) : what
> a
> hack, just make the thing run properly !
> --
> Manuel Viet
>
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