On 3/8/06, Wayne S <om4t@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Joel, Question, were these images reduced through down sampling
> in PS? Can you show an unprocessed 100% crop instead? Down
> sampling will make it look better.
Yes, these were reduced to normal web sizes.
> Here is a 100% crop converted
> in PS CS2 with no other processing:
>
> http://www.zuik.net/E1/800iso_A147882.jpg
>
> compared to other cameras, this is just too noisy for me. And
> really not that usable. Yes, you can post process it, and if you
> also reduce it, the noise is less apparent. But that is a lot of
> noise IMO. And I really love that purple tinge to the guy's hair.
I can't say that I see any unnatural tinge in the hair. The color
looks warm but pretty good to me. I certainly take your point about
the effect of reduction.
In your example, I would wonder a little about movement and blur as
contributing some negative effect. And perhaps I am just insulating
myself from the devasting Heartbreak of Noise, but viewing at 100% is
not natural to me. At 100% ISO 800 will definitely suffer in
comparison. But I don't evaluate a photograph at actual pixels. This
is one of my major beefs with dpreview-type reviews. They simply
create milestones with respect to noise which have less to do with a
normal end result than is realistic. I didn't even TRY ISO 1600 for
almost a year because the pundits said it wasn't usable. I find that
I can use it, and while I prefer to work with ISO 100 images, the
results can be quite acceptable. ISO 800 is definitely acceptable to
me. At 100%? Nothing would be acceptable.
For me 50% viewing is as high as I want to go. Part of this may be
the way aliasing works on my monitor, however. YMMV.
> Hey, but now that I look at it, hmmm, it has some nice artistic
> look to it, and if I take my glasses off and look from a distance
> it starts to look even ..... nah, the hair should just not be
> purple I tell ya. the purple just, nope, just doesn't do it for me.
>
> Wayne
It wouldn't do it for me either, but I don't see any purple at all!
Joel W.
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