Chuck... + web development team,
I mentioned on the list some time ago that I stumbled upon a useful page where
you can submit your URL and they will test it with about 8 different browsers
and different screen resolutions and then show screenshots of the results
http://www.browsershots.org/
hope you find it useful
br
jez
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Dacey" <adacey@xxxxxxxxx>
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [OM] Re: More on Chuck's new website
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:26:09 -0300
>
>
> On 7/25/05, Manuel Viet <oly@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Really nice ; in case you care, it displays very well in Mozilla
> > and Konqueror
> > (Linux station). Just for the sake of finding something to criticize, I
> > regret that it doesn't really work with a text-based browser (lynx, links).
> > The site does work better than most, in fact, but you can't grab pictures to
> > display in a separate viewer, which I often do, because they're trapped in
> > php. Admittedly, it may be a concern for 0.0001 % of the web-surfers (but
> > that's enough to lose that "whatever you wished" compliance sticker).
>
> I'm glad that someone else mentioned compatibility with Lynx (or other
> text-only browsers). My first job that involved doing any serious web
> work was at a local community network and at the time our dial-up
> access only offered Lynx (you dialed in with a terminal emulator, no
> ppp connection). Because of this, I was required to make sure that all
> our pages worked 100% in Lynx (and in some cases even had to design
> around an 80x24 character screen). Sometimes this was a huge pain in
> the butt but it really instilled a discipline in the way I designed my
> sites that I've tried to keep to this day.
>
> I'd mentioned before that HTML is supposed to only describe the
> structure of a document, not the style and I try to stick to that
> philosophy as well. Fortunately, CSS gives you the ability to seperate
> the structure from the apearance. And, as a bonus, tends to make the
> Lynx support pretty easy.
>
> An added bonus to designing this way is it tends to make your page
> more accessible. For instance, it's much easier for a blind user with
> a screen reader to navigate your site.
>
> One of the problems with the web is that a lot of web designers have
> come from traditional paper design backgrounds and are used to having
> absolute control over the layout and appearance of their product. The
> web was never designed to allow for this and you end up having to do a
> lot of ugly hacks to try to make it work that way (which often don't
> work across different browsers or platforms). The mistake is trying to
> design for the web as if you were designing for traditional print
> media instead of looking at how the web is a different media and what
> design will or won't work for it.
>
> But this isn't anything new, early television went through a similar
> phase as people tried to figure out how it differed from radio (before
> my time but I'm taking peoples' word for it). With any new medium you
> go through an adjustment phase where you have to learn what will and
> won't work with it.
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