RE: [OM] Re: 35mm film lost the battle against digital ? NO WAYYou may be right
in most of what you say.....but shall we damn the ignorant consumer that
swallows all the Sh*t. ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Mitchell
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:46 AM
Subject: RE: [OM] Re: 35mm film lost the battle against digital ? NO WAY
To be fair to the Digital revolution in this case, I am a big fan of DVD.
Don't get me wrong, I know it's limitations. I watch some films, and one
concert I have on DVD in particular, and I cringe at the digital artefacts /
mpeg artefacts that I see. BUT the alternative (VHS) is just so poor that DVD
is a major step in the right direction.
Now I work in the TV Broadcast industry, so I know the level of quality that
CAN be achieved, but at a cost. The Beta that was talked about recently as a
format was great. The pro versions (Betacam SP and Digi Beta) are awesome.
Watching anything on DigiBeta, I honestly don't think anyone would fault it.
Simply perfect quality. Leagues above DVD, to give an idea. If I remember my
theory (I may not !) it's 50 percent compression. DVD Mpeg is variable but
normally is A LOT more than this.
But that comes at a very high price. No way would that take on as a consumer
machine !! (We're talking in the region of tens of thousands for a recorder /
player. And they're BIG !) Besides, the quality of the medium our TV is
broadcast on is relatively poor. I sit at work and watch what we are pumping
out (to transmission) and it's damn good. I watch what comes back off the
satellite and it's, frankly, appaling. And that's an all-digital route.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Digital as a professional medium can
be great, as the professionals can often afford it. However, they've tried to
make it pay by pushing it on us "users" or "consumers" and to do this they've
made a lot of compromises. Way too many for my liking. In the UK, Digital
Cable & Satellite is taking off. Looking at the quality I would rather have 6
channels of top quality stuff, but they give us 60 channels of absolute sh*te.
And I'm talking about both technical and content quality.
Anyway, my rant is over. Stand firm, brothers, and resist the push of
Digital until it does what you need it to and at a quality you will accept,
rather than when it is forced upon you. Damned Marketing people !! (Apologies
to any Marketing people on here !!) :-)
Note the smily !!
Regards,
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of William Clark
Sent: 08 October 2002 18:59
To: 'olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [OM] Re: 35mm film lost the battle against digital ? NO WAY
He sounds like an industry insider to me ;o)
In any case, financial and entertainment experts on CNN have stated for the
past 5 years that volume sales of DVD would beat VHS. They haven't. Maybe
this year.
DVDs are just now coming into their own. I remember when I was working
during the summer of 1991 when I saw a DVD player for the first time here in
Ottawa. Expensive, and if you recall, the early ones never worked!!!! The
moral is it has taken over 10 years for DVD to get where it is now (a long time
in a "wired world") and they still lag behind VHS (only just a bit though).
This should give everyone pause for thought regarding digicams, especially
with the Kodak film stats recently given. 525-million people in the world are
not going to give up their film overnight. Like all innovations that have to
pass consumer judgement, it will take time. My guess.....over 10 years.
-Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Wayman [mailto:hiwayman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: October 8, 2002 1:43 PM
To: INTERNET:olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [OM] Re: 35mm film lost the battle against digital ? NO WAY
Message text written by INTERNET:olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>People said VHS would die 10 yrs ago with DVD, it hasn't.<
Being reluctant to rush headlong into the embrace of the latest technology,
it's been only a couple of weeks since this household invested in a DVD
player. While at a Best Buy picking up a couple of things to watch --
"Good Fellas," "Heat," "Reservoir Dogs" and "The Usual Suspects" for
starters -- a most authorative teenager, complete with embedded metal and
impregnated ink, sauntered up and informed me, "Hey, old dude, in two years
they ain't going to be no more movies out on video tape. It's all going to
be on DVD. Yer getting caught up, I see. And Reservoir Dogs is awesome,
considering it's really ancient."
He may be right. Out of the mouths of babes, despite the fact they are
metal-headed and tattooed, even we survivors of the last half of the 20th
Century may learn something. Could happen.
And "Reservoir Dogs" is way too violent and bloody for normal people, so
don't take this as a recommendation.
Walt
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