A warning first...I'm afraid this is degenerating into a PC v Mac thread...if
you read nothing else before trashing this message:
I'd like to remind everyone (myself included) to give themselves a slap in the
face whenver they start confusing "average joe" with a "smart business" which
requires a "state of the art digital imaging solution"
Phillip Franklin wrote:
> Regarding Jan & Denton's posts on PCs, Macs & SCSI,
>
> I think the average Joe who goes into an appliance store and buys a PC
> (or Mac for that matter) off the shelf and starts hooking up internal
> devices without knowing what the hell they bought or anything else about
> hardware configuration will certainly run into some problems and start
> whining.
But is less likely to on a Mac, given the same lack of research.
Eliminate people who do this, and the problems almost
> disappear. There certainly is no "standard" configuration of a PC nor
> will there be a standard configuration of a Mac in the future. As we
> move to new devices such as "Fire Wire" , USB and now USB 2, ATA64 Hard
> drives, Ultra SCSI @ 80mbs, and the like it will be even more confusing
> and difficult for this average Joe to really know and assume some
> manufacturer be it Apple, Compaq, Dell, (or some unheard of name) has
> properly used the best configuration and components for what he's
> getting into. Now we're looking at PCs with bus speeds exceeding 133mhz
> with built in USB 2 (which by the way will out perform firewire 2:1).
Sorry, this is misleading. For a single high-speed device on the bus,
communicating with the processor, USB 2.0 will outperform firewire 1.0, but IRL
you probably won't see it. Furthemore, by the time USB 2 is ratified (at
480MB/s), firewire will be shipping at 800MB/s. When you add to the the fact
that all USB traffic is routed through the processor adding latency and using
overhead (where firewire devices communicate directly) and the superior
management of data transmitted at different speeds over firewire, USB 2 doesn't
look so hot. Check http://www.MacKiDo.com/Hardware/USB2.html (an admittedly
Mac-biased site) if you want the techie details.
> what's this average Joe supposed to do if he wants the fastest and most
> reliable PC for the money. Probably do what all the smart businesses
> have been doing for many years. Buy a solution. Buy something that has
> been custom configured down to every board level component.
Wrong, if he's average Joe, his money won't cover a solution (both because of
the magnitude of the $$$ investment, and the often non-financial expected
return) regardless of it's speed and reliability. He'll buy a Dell, or an Apple,
or whatever, and it will suck in comparison.
> Unfortunately you can't get this from Circuit City, Toys R US or Dell or
> Compaq and especially not Apple. However there are thousands of
> businesses and individuals who do this for a living.
Why "especially not apple"? You might just as well have said "especially not
compaq"...
> As we move into even more intense digital imaging we will be using
> things like 10,000rpm Ultra SCSI hard drives, and very large volume off
> line storage such as DVD. The 80mbs and faster storage devices may have
> a separate SCSI controller than those of the slower peripherals such as
> scanners. We may have USB (and USB 2) or SCSI readers to read the Smart
> Media or Flash memory cards off our digital cameras.
>
> What I'm trying t o point out is that don't expect an out of the box or
> off the shelf solution from even lovable Apple
For an off the shelf solution for average joe (who likes to play with digital
imaging, but isn't a pro, and doesn't make their living from it) Apple are doing
pretty well with their iMac DV (and no doubt there are or soon will be similar
packages from PC vendors).
(who by the way puts just
> 5400 rpm drives in its new G4 ).
Sure, in the low-end, but you're a bit behind the times...the "standard
configuration of a Mac" hasn't been the _only_ configuration for a while. You
can add a 3 x 36Gb Ultra2 SCSI array with 2 channel card if you want to, right
off the apple website. What is the base drive that comes with a Dell? An Ultra
ATA 5400 rpm...
So either do your homework well or
> hire an outside specialist to create your state of the art digital
> imaging solution. You'll be glad you did. Now stop your whining about
> Apple vs. PC. It's what's under the hood not the name badge on the
> grill.
If it's all about what's under the hood, why single out Macs when you tell
everyone to stop whinig? Mac users will stop whining when PC users stop pointing
out the faults inherent in all personal computers by singling out "especially
Apple" as their example.
Dylan
Obligatory OM content: I use a G3/266 mac to read the oly list from work, and a
PPro 200 to read the oly list from home. Whetever computer I use, the messages
on the list are the same;-)
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